>> heavens no. no, no, no. no. >> okay. because obviously, you're writing about mental health. some people have said, look, you have fair points, liza, but don't let this obscure the national debate we need to have about gun control and what we need to do. >> oh, my goodness, no. i heard that from more than one person. i think the question is it's something about it's easy to talk about gun control but it's time to talk about mental health. if i can clarify, what i mean is easy is we can frame the gun control debate in terms of right and wrong. you know, it's right to have gun control. or it's wrong, as some people would say, to have gun control. that's a simple way to debate a question. i don't think you can say that mental health is right or wrong. >> yeah, all right. thank you very much, liza. i appreciate you taking the time and coming and talking about this. >> thank you, erin. i really appreciate you highlighting this important issue of mental health. i really feel like this is a conversation we need to have as a nation. we need to do something for our children and adults